Saturday, September 21, 2013

Henri Van Martin?

Today, on the defunct French Republican Calendar, is New Year's Eve, Year 221.  It is the complimentary year-end festival day "La Fete des Recompenses" (Celebration of Honors).  Based on classic liberalism, I would assume that would be like "Christmas," with a giving of presents to everyone (though, in capitalism, these would be "rewards"!)

According to the French Republican calendar, I would have been born on 20 Nivose CDXI (161).  If the 10-day week had been maintained, that would have been on Decadi (10th day - the day of rest).  That day on the calendar is named "Van" (Winnowing basket).  I guess I could have been named "Henri Van Martin" in honor of the day.

So, to all those First Republic fans out there: Bonne année!!!

Thanks to Steve Morse for his handy converter at


Steve Finnell said...


Is it possible to seek God? Calvinists teach that none seek God. They believe God selects all who will be saved, making it an impossibility to seek HIM. Man-made doctrines are always contrary to Scripture. God's word is always, the last word.

Acts 15:15-17 With this the words of the Prophets agree, just as it is written, 16 After theses things I will return, And I will rebuild the tabernacle of David which has fallen, And I will restore it, 17 So that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord, And all the Gentiles who are called by My name,

Prophets of God agree that all mankind may seek the Lord; a sharp contrast to Calvinistic teaching.

Psalm 10:4 The wicked, in the haughtiness of his countenance, does not seek Him. All his thoughts are, "There is no God."

The wicked can seek God, however, they choose not to. Pride destroys the desire to seek God.

Acts 17:26-27 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and boundaries of their habitation, 27 that they seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us;

Mankind is to seek God. He is there for whoever is willing to find Him.

Psalm 53:1-2 The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God.".....2 God has looked down from heaven upon the sons of men to see if there is anyone who understands, Who seeks God,

If God selects men to be saved against their will, He would not have to look down to see who seeks Him.

Proverbs 8:17 "I love those who love me; And those who diligently seek me will find me.

God says diligently seek Him. Calvinists proclaim that no man can seek God. Who do you believe?

2 Chronicles 19:3 But there is some good in you, for you have removed the Asheroth from the land and you have set your heart to seek God."

Men need to prepare their hearts to seek God.

Psalm 9:10 And those who know Your name will put their trust in You, For You, O Lord, have not forsaken those who seek You.

The writer of the Psalms says God will not forsake those who seek God. Those who preach, the John Calvin view of predestination, strongly disagree.

Matthew 6:33 But seek first His kingdom......

Jesus says seek God's kingdom. John Calvin says men cannot seek God.

Hebrews 11:6 ....for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him.

God rewards those who seek Him.


(All Scripture quotes from:NEW AMERICAN STANDARD BIBLE)


Henry Martin said...

Steve, your comment as nothing to do with my post, so I must come to the conclusion that your post is "spam" to get my attention. You have misrepresented a small point of contention with the Calvinist position, building a "straw man" at which you throw a barrage of scripture verses, ignoring those that might contradict your position.

Your argument is not with John Calvin, but with Paul the Apostle:

Rom. 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. (KJV).

In context, this has to do with mankind's total inability to come to God on their own. It takes the leading of the Holy Spirit to cause someone to seek after true righteousness.

The first verse quoted presents the context of who will seek God: those of the nations that "who are called by his name." This is God's doing, not the will of man. That is what Jesus meant when he said:

"No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day." John 6:44 (KJV).

Again, you call upon the doctrine of predestination to seemingly support your claim. It is God who determines before time the historical circumstances that make it possible for the Gentiles to come to God.

Oddly, you quote the "fool's psalm" for your side. God looks down to see mankind in rebellion. Out of that anarchy he draws those he loves unconditionally, and those he definitively saves from the wages of sin.

The sermon on the mount, from which Matt. 6:33 was taken, and the letter to the Hebrews were both addressed to believers -- that is, those who have faith and by nature are able to "seek" God. All others don't know what they are looking for, building idols after their own images instead.

There is nothing arbitrary about God's choices and no one is "forced" into the kingdom. But God always "gets his way." That is the very nature of God. It is only by changing a sinner into a saint (set apart for God) that one who was once lost will want to seek after God.

I suggest that you actually study some of what Calvin has written, not to mention Luther and, to some extent even St. Augustine, before you try to defend your point of view. These were not heretics, Steve, but were men steeped in the Scriptures.

Read John, Romans and Ephesians, and then get back to me. Thank you for the invitation to follow your blog, but I don't believe I will take you up on that right now.